Showing posts with label apathy. Show all posts
Showing posts with label apathy. Show all posts
Thursday, October 6, 2016
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Friday, May 29, 2015
Thursday, August 28, 2014
All while pregnant herself! This is disgusting. Read all about it and the other celebs including Gabrielle Union, Natasha Lyonne, and Selenis Leyva who are also going to join in the campaign at the link below.
I use to like Scarlett but now I have no respect for her and will not support her career or movies any longer.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/scarlett-johansson-teams-up-with-planned-parenthood-for-new-line-of-pro-abo
Saturday, July 12, 2014
Now these same people almost to the letter would have an absolute fit if you said it was all right to kill a puppy or kitten - just smash it's little skull or give it a shot to stop it's heart. They would say that is cruel! How could anyone even think of doing such a thing? (And they would be right). They would never agree to such a thing for an animal, but they are perfectly fine with people doing the exact same things to babies in the womb. I will never understand that ever. It is beyond ludicrous and downright evil.
Monday, July 7, 2014
All right everyone that knows anything about me knows how I feel about abortion. I hate it completely.
I just want to say one thing in light of all the people throwing hissy fits over companies like Hobby Lobby not wanting to cover abortion causing drugs. If a person believes that abortion is wrong the very LEAST that a person could do would be to respect that belief. And if they own a company and are paying for health insurance they should not be made to pay for abortions or any drug that causes one period!
We supposedly live in the land of the free, but that's only true in many people's minds for as long as you agree with them. If they want something and you won't give it to them - (even if it goes against everything you believe at your very core) then too bad. You are just evil incarnate and should be made to give them what they want anyway...regardless of your rights and your beliefs.
At the VERY least if you are just are bound and determined and nothing is going to stop you from getting an abortion (and God forbid that you do) pay for it yourself! Don't make someone else have to pay for your choice!
I am sick and tired of hearing people whine about Hobby Lobby when they DO offer 16 out of the 20 different forms of birth control!!! People are loosing their minds over them not wanting to pay for the 4 abortion causing drugs! They have rights too!!! So get over yourselves! If you want to kill your child at the very, very least have the common decency and do not ask or expect someone else to pay the bill for it!
Wednesday, July 2, 2014
Thursday, July 18, 2013
Wednesday, February 6, 2013
THIS is what "choice" really looks like...
I saw this photo on Facebook today it was shared on one of my friends pages. The caption that accompanied the photo reads...
I normally don't post photos like this because personally I can't stand to look at them myself. It breaks my heart and I literally feel sick when seeing them. However I am beginning to think like many others that there are many people out there that never question what abortion and pro-choice really are until they are faced with the unflinching truth of what it looks like. And I hate to say this but this is one of the MILD photos of what abortion does and is. At least in this one you don't see the little babies literally ripped into pieces as many of them are through what people call a safe and legal "choice".
Tell me how ripping a baby into pieces is right in any circumstance and for any reason! Tell me how purposely causing a baby to be born before it can live outside the womb and tossing it's body in a dumpster like it was nothing more than garbage is right or just in any way!
When someone posts a picture like this it is not done to hurt anyone or to offend them per say. It is done to educate and help people see the truth. It's done out of love to help open people's eyes to the evil that is going on in our country every single day. It is done so that things like this will stop! And while someone might inadvertently see it and it might upset them, and some will undoubtedly get offended when they do see them these kinds of pictures are necessary and powerful. It is graphic photos just like this that have changed many people's hearts and minds about abortion. Because they were never actually faced with what it abortion truly is and what it does before seeing images just like this one and worse those of the pieces that are left behind of the babies after abortions.
Abortion is nothing more than a word to many people. This picture should show you that it is much more than that, and it is not just a political issue as many want to argue. This is a civil rights issue, it is a religious issue, it is a moral issue, and it is truly a human life or death issue.
Don't worry I won't be posting many of these. I honestly don't know if I will ever be able to post one again after this. And I sure can't post some of the ones that I have come across inadvertently myself on other pro-life pages, because I think I would literally throw up even trying. Some of the ones I have seen haunt me often. Anyone with even half of a heart at all doesn't want to see these things, but they need to be seen so that these atrocities will stop! It was graphic photos of aborted babies that a young Lila Rose of Live Action saw when she was a young girl and it helped her to become one of the strongest pro-life advocates in our country today because she was so moved and horrified by what she saw. People need the blinders ripped off of their eyes and for abortion to stop being hidden to where they have to address this issue. Stop being silent, stop turning away from it, stop closing your eyes and pretending that it isn't happening or that it has nothing to do with you because it does. This issue affects every single one of us on this earth today because it has already taken the lives of over 55 million of our brothers and sisters, friends, and neighbors. God only knows who was meant to be in each and everyone one of our lives that is missing today because of abortion.
I hope this does make people angry and I hope it does upset people and make them sick and make them mad because it SHOULD! Abortion is KILLING over 3,500 babies in America every single day. They aren't just numbers on a piece of paper or on a page on the internet or some statistic that someone made up they are human beings. They are innocent children that were meant to be on this earth for a reason and their lives are being ended purposely and discarded like they were nothing by the thousands every single day. Let's not forget that it is also leaving over 3,500 women who are the mother's of those children scarred for life as well both physically and mentally. One killed one left to suffer and haunted for life... untold thousands of men and women's lives unequivocally changed forever.
So you see while photos like this are ugly and hard to look at there are many people in today's world who do need to see pictures just like this to show them exactly what abortion truly is. I felt very strongly for some reason as soon as I saw this one today on a friend's page that I needed to share it. God himself only knows why but I pray that it will help someone to open their eyes and see the truth of what abortion really is and what it is doing. And God willing it will change their hearts and minds and I pray save lives in the future because of it.
May God have mercy on the U.S. and help turn it from being a country that embraces death to one that once again values and embraces life!
Saturday, January 12, 2013
Now by doing this that doesn't mean that you agree with their former actions at all! Or that we don't tell them the truth but you can tell them the truth and teach them while treating with respect like a human being. They will listen to what you are saying MUCH more that way than they will if you treat them with indignation and hate. We want to help these women understand that LIFE is the right choice and help them to see that there are MANY crisis pregnancy centers and other organizations out there that are ready and more than willing to help them and their babies! But you will never get the chance to help them if you alienate the mothers!
I have actually even heard (and this makes me sick to think that a grown person who calls themselves pro-life and sometimes even try to call themselves Christians) that some people who stand outside of abortion centers throw raw meat at the women who are going in and call them vile names and curse them. THAT is not the way to change their minds!!! Would you listen to someone that treated you like this? No you wouldn't. That is sick and childish and it won't help them listen to anything that the Pro-life cause has to say with those kinds of actions. And no true Christian would ever treat anyone this way either! To reach these people we need to treat them as we would want to be treated ourselves with respect and like a person. Because if you curse and throw things and take that kind of approach you are in fact helping the Pro-choice side infinitely more than the Pro-life one! You are doing more harm to the Pro-life cause than good, and you could be helping to loose even more lives by this type of ignorant behavior.
Many of the women who are considering abortion are very young many of them are being pressured by others many times those closest to them to have an abortion. Many have been told by them all around them that abortion is the way to go and that they have no other choice if they want to have a normal life. They are scared, they feel alone, and many have no idea that there are countless programs and people out there more than willing to help them and their babies and that will help them both so that both of them can have a chance at a better and happy life! But we are never going to reach these people who need us most if we or others treat them the way that I have mentioned above that some people who profess to be Pro-life are treating them. This will only push them further into the grips of abortion and Planned Parenthood and their lies that abortion is the quick, safe, and easy way out. It's NOT and we need to reach these women and help them not condemn them and push them further toward an abortion that will kill their innocent child and wound them for life.
Let's love them both the mother's and the babies and fight to save both of their lives because both of them are our brothers and sisters that is what being truly Pro-life is all about! It's about love, not hate there is already plenty of that on the other side and that is what we are trying to END. Let's love our neighbors as ourselves as Jesus taught us to do and help teach others that abortion is NEVER the right decision. That there is help and hope out there and fight to end abortion for the mother's and children's sakes. EVERYONE deserves better than abortion!
Wednesday, January 9, 2013
I have heard many people who are pro-choice make the claim that Pro-life people
do not really care anything about the women that we only care about the babies.
Really most of them always throw in there that we only care about the fetus's
because of course calling an unborn child a baby to them is a huge no,
no. It's all part of the imagined war on women that pro-choicers and
liberals believe wholeheartedly in
and use to try to justify all their leftist beliefs. The accusations that they
level that pro-life people only care for the unborn are completely false. A
true Pro-life person cares just as much about the mother as they do her unborn
child. We don't want to see anyone hurt and that is what abortion does it kills
one and wounds the other most of the time for life both psychologically and
physically as well.
Many pro-choice people might not try to take on the issue that abortions do harm
the woman who has them emotionally, but they will usually are very outspoken and to say that "legal" abortions are
perfectly safe medical procedures that do no lasting harm physically to the mothers. Yet countless recent research irrefutably states otherwise.
Countless studies have shown over the last few years that women who have abortions are at a higher risk
for death for up to 8 years after having an abortion. Research has shown that
women who have abortions often suffer many complications in subsequent
pregnancies including an increased risk of ectopic pregnancies, endometritis,
placenta previa and PID and more. There have been many resent studies showing an increased risk for breast cancer and other types of female
sometimes as much as double the normal risk after having one or more abortions. (The risks continue to rise after every abortion) The risk of
future miscarriages and premature births increases sharply in some cases they
more than double. And countless studies show that abortions more than triple the risk of a woman developing
mental health problems which includes a high risk of suicide.
Here are two great links that list in detail the risks to a women who have
abortions verse those who don't.
List of psychological and suicide risks - http://www.theunchoice.com/pdf/FactSheets/PsychologicalRisks.pdf
You see Pro-life people care about the mothers too. We don't want
to see them suffer and possibly die themselves due to abortion or abortion causing drugs. Because the
lies that Planned Parenthood and the abortion industry have spread so far and
wide are just that they are lies there is NO such thing as a safe
abortion. Choices have consequences so you much choose wisely.
True Pro-life people believe that both lives are equal. Abortion
is really a civil rights issue. In fact I would venture to say that it is the
ultimate civil rights issue of all time because without the right to life all other rights
are rendered meaningless. Even the horrible practice of slavery didn't mean an automatic death sentence for the slave. They had a chance to live even though most other freedoms were taken from them. Abortion doesn't allow any chance of freedom for the children at all. All men and women are created equal. And as our great Declaration of Independence states "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." There is a reason why they put LIFE first! Because it is the most precious and important right there is! Without it nothing else is even relevant.
Who has the right to say that one person's life worth more than another?
Who has the right to say that one person's life worth more than another?
They say that we only care about the life of the child but why do they only care for the woman and nothing else? Is the mother's life some how more valuable than the child's she
is carrying because she is older? Or because of where she is in her life? Or
because she is already been allowed to grow enough to know where she is at and
interact with the outside world around her? The answer to all the questions
above is NO! Her life is equal too and just as valuable and important as her
child's, but it is not more important. Each and every one of them was at one time that a "fetus" and their lives were just as valuable but no more so than the children that they say that it is all right to kill in the womb. The only difference is they had a mother who did choose life for them. Yet they would deny others that same right and try to call themselves liberators and advocates for freedom? For anyone to say that their life is
somehow more valuable than anyone else's is the epitome of
selfishness and narcissism. We are all the same in the sight of God our
Creator.
Now I can't speak for how every mother feels but I can speak from
my own experience... when I was pregnant with my son one day into my eighth
month of pregnancy I had an appointment to go see my OBG/GYN. In fact it was
the visit where I was suppose to start going every two weeks for checkups from then on until I had my son. I knew that I hadn't been feeling well that day, but to be perfectly honest
I was extremely sick throughout my entire pregnancy, I was pretty much
miserable the entire time. I was one of the "lucky" ones that had
morning, noon, and night sickness for my entire pregnancy I didn't just have
morning sickness it happened every morning and sometimes all throughout the day and I just always felt wiped out and just blah. I also had other problems but I won't go into that the point
I'm trying to make is that I had already felt so bad during my pregnancy that I
really didn't see a huge difference in how I was feeling that day. I went
to work like normal and worked right up until the time that I had to leave work
and go straight to my doctor's appointment at around 2pm. I had worked the whole day with my
feet propped up on my trashcan underneath my desk because my feet were
swelling that day. But again this was my first pregnancy and I have heard just like every
other woman that women's feet swell a lot of the time when they are pregnant
and I didn't really think that much about it. I thought well it's just because I'm
getting closer to my due date this is just part of it and most women go through it no biggy. I got to the
Doctor's office and I went in like normal when they called me back it was the
same old routine that they had done all the times before. They weighed me and a few other things then I sat down in a chair for them to take my blood pressure and this is where everything changed. The nurse looked like something was wrong like she
wasn't seeing the blood pressure reading right when the cuff had fulled deflated. She said let me take that
again... I did think it was a bit odd but again I didn't know anything was
wrong and I just thought she might not have pumped the cuff enough or the blood
pressure cuff just didn't work right or something that time. So she took my
blood pressure again and this time she didn't say anything she just opened a drawer got
out a red pen (she had been using another color before that while writing in my
chart) and she wrote something in red in my chart and said I'll be right back. Well
now I was starting to wonder what was going on but still I wasn't overly
alarmed at this point still.
Before to long she came back and got me and my husband and showed
us into an exam room just like they always did, and it wasn't too long until my
Dr. came in. She asked how I was feeling and came and examined me just like always feeling of my stomach etc. like all the times before, but after she
finished she stepped back and the next words out of her mouth turned my world
completely upside down. She told me that my blood pressure was extremely high
and that she was going to have to put me in the hospital and that I needed to
go ahead and have my baby that night or in the morning.
I felt like all the
blood drained completely out of me. I remember saying "No it's not time
yet he's too little. I'm only eight months by one day. I can't have him yet, he's not ready." My Dr. told me that
I had developed Preclampsia/Toxemia and
that I needed to go ahead have him then for both of our sakes. She said my blood
pressure was so high that I could have stroke or go into seizures. She said did
you know you are already in labor? I couldn't believe it! She told me that I was already having
contractions... she said put your hand on your stomach you feel how hard it is. I
was like yeah she said that’s because you are having contractions. I was
floored I didn't know what to say. I felt like I was about to have a panic
attack or pass out or both, and I was absolutely scared to death. She said the best thing to do was to put me in the hospital and have this baby. She told me that
she didn't even want me going home to get any clothes or anything, she pointed
to my husband and said he can take care of that later. She wanted me to go
straight over to the hospital which was just up the driveway from where her
office building was right then and that she would meet us over there. She even told my husband to get my information and for him
to go admit me and they could go ahead and start me on some medicine etc. When I got there they
immediately got an IV going and started giving me medicine to speed up my labor
and something to keep me from going in to seizures because my blood pressure
was sky high. I told them there was no chance of it coming down anytime soon
because I had never been so terrified in my entire life.
I prayed that day probably more and more vehemently than I
ever have in my life. I had monitors all over me monitoring me, taking my blood pressure every few mins. and monitors that were monitoring Stephen's heart rate. I prayed to God to help me and my son and if
it was possible and according with his will at all to let us both make it
through it without any problems and be healthy. But that if that wasn't possible and anyone had to
die I begged God to let it be me, to please take me instead and let my son live.
The Dr. got there after they got me in a room and she told
them to get an anesthesiologist in there as soon as possible, and that she wanted me to get an epidural ASAP she told them that she didn't want me feeling anything. I remember she was very adamant about that. She said her blood pressure is already so high
I don’t want her feeling any pain at all it could make it go even higher. She even told me that I could watch TV in the room but to not even watch anything that could get me excited or anything like a sports game or anything. Which I was like ok.....But I
will admit that the she didn't want me feeling any pain part sounded really good to
me. It wasn't long before the anesthesiologist came into my room and gave me an epidural and my Dr. got her wish I felt nothing from my stomach down. I couldn't even feel my legs at all I remember pinching them and never feeling anything at all. But in the mean while I got very sick from the medicine that they were giving me to try to keep me from having seizures. It also had a side effect of making me extremely hot. The Dr. told me when she started the drip that it was going to and I quote "make me feel like crap" she said there is just no other way to put it. Man was she right I got sick to my stomach and I felt like I was burning up from the inside out. It was a realllllllly miserable afternoon and night. I didn't know what was going to happen I was so afraid that I was going to loose my son. I was even more terrified because
his heart rate dropped several times during the night but it always came back
up pretty quickly and my Dr. wanted me to have him naturally without a
c-section if I could. Also they kept having to come and draw blood from me every few hours to check the levels of some of the medicine they were giving me because if it got to high in my blood that wasn't a good thing either.With the epidural even
when I was going into hard labor later that night I didn't feel any pain at
all. I could have gone to sleep accept I was too scared too. Also with them coming in all the time checking things, taking blood, and the blood pressure cuff taking my bp every 15 mins didn't help matters either. It took a long
time before I finally got dilated all the way to where I could start to push the next day.
My appointment at the doctor had been at about 2pm that day and I didn't actually have my son until 4 minutes until 4 the next day but the actual birth
when I started to push and actually have him was one of the easiest parts of my
entire pregnancy. I remember telling my husband that if my whole pregnancy had been as easy as the birth part itself everything would have been a piece of cake.
Stephen weighted 4 pounds
when he was born. And he came out crying it seemed but it was music to my ears. He was so tiny but he was the most beautiful thing I had ever
seen. I know that my husband and I very blessed. There are many children are born much smaller than
he was, but it's still scary when they are that small. I am so thankful to God
for answering my prayers and he was born healthy with no real problems accept
being slightly jaundice. He had no problems with his lungs and had no problem
breathing which they were a little concerned about with him being premature. But
he didn't have any problems and didn't have to be put in an incubator or
anything thank God. He is a true blessing to my husband and I and to this day I
would give my life for his in a second.
I am a mother myself and even
though I was miserable and sick throughout my entire pregnancy and my son and I could have
died when I had him. I would do it all over in a heartbeat. Because Stephen’s life matters and
besides Jesus he is the greatest blessing that God has ever given to me. I am thankful to God everyday for him! He teaches ME new things everyday almost as much or maybe even more than I teach him. My life wasn't then and never will be more important than his.
In closing the real war on women is being waged by those that devalue life and think that no person's life or well being comes before their plans or what they want. We live in a society that is very narcissistic in many ways. It's sad to say but there are many in today's world who could truly care less of what happens to others just as long as they get what they want. That is not the way that things are suppose to be. Some don't care about what is right or what is the truth, they only want what they want and they won't even try to see anything beyond that. They won't listen to any scientific studies or any articles, even by those in the top of their fields in embryology and biology that say that life begins at conception. They can't be bothered to even try listen to, watch, or read anything to see what is true or not if what they believe is right or wrong. Many don't care or if they do they have become so complacent with the way that things are they won't do anything to try to change anything.
My friends we have to be loving and shining lights in this world and try to help changes people's hearts and minds. ALL people in this world are our brothers and sisters. And no matter how they act or what they believe getting angry and throwing around accusations and calling them vile names will not make them listen to you and that isn't right either. We need to stand up for what is right and act caring, logical, responsible adults. We must keep telling the truth no matter what . And for others to be willing to listen to and accept the truth we need to speak the truth but speak it with love and respect that is how to reach people.
I have actually had several pro-choice people say that I
and other pro-lifers really are not pro-life at all just pro-birth, we only care that our beloved "fetuses" are born, but that's not true. True pro-life people believe in the sanctity of all human life, that all people are created by God in his image and are of immeasurable value regardless of
how that child was conceived, or if it is completely healthy with no problems, or it's sex, or any other reason and the mother's
life is just as important as her baby's life is. They are both equal and both
should be loved and cared for! Neither
should have to suffer or die because of abortion.
Monday, December 31, 2012
May this New Year be a year where we will all stand up for LIFE and work harder than ever to end abortion! May we be a voice for the voiceless and work to save our unborn brothers and sisters in Christ! For Jesus taught us that we are to love one another and love our neighbor as ourselves, that we are our brother's and sister's keepers. That we are to defend and help those who are defenseless and weak. Jesus taught us that above all we are to live our lives as he did and strive to be the children of our Father who is in Heaven as he has commanded us to be! May God help us all to be as he would have us to be in this new year!
Wednesday, December 26, 2012
First I want to address that the reason that pro-choice
people only like to call an unborn baby a clump of cells or a fetus is because
they don't want to call it a baby or a child because that would make it harder
to justify their belief that it is all right to kill that child. It is a tactic
to dehumanize or separate emotion and reality that it is truly a living baby
that they are referring too. The only difference is that it is in a different stage
of it’s development (still in the womb) where you can’t see it yet with your eyes
without an ultrasound machine. You need not look any further than ANY woman
that wants the child that she is caring: do they go around saying "I'm
going to have a fetus!" Or I just found out “I’m carrying a clump of
cells!” No they say “I'm going to have a baby!” And rightly so because that is
what they are going to have.
People like Abby Johnson that use to work as a director for 8
years at Planned Parenthood before she saw the light and became a very
outspoken Pro-life advocate and speaker have testified that they teach their
employees to always refer to the child as a fetus or a clump of cells and to
NEVER under any circumstances to call a baby or a child. Because that would put
the thought of what it really is into the woman's mind and she might change her
mind about having the abortion. All abortion clinics use this tactic.
But it is murder to abort a baby or if you want to call it a
fetus or even an embryo it's still murder. Putting another name on it doesn't change what it is. It is the taking of an innocent human life even though it is
at an early stage in development. Its still murder if you kill a 2 year old or
if you kill a 40 year old the only difference is their level of development:
their size and age. The science of Embryology and all top Embryologists and
even the top abortion advocates like Peter Singer, and David Boonin all concede
and acknowledge the fact that a human being comes into existence at the moment
of conception. Everything that that human being is going to be is already
present and mapped out in their unique DNA at the moment of conception. All that
they need is nutrition and the proper environment like any human being before
or after them to continue to grow and be born.
The woman who made the comment on my post said that a fetus at 20 weeks doesn't have a brain so it’s not murder to abort it. However that’s not true a baby at
20 weeks does already have a functioning brain. The brain and its cerebral
hemispheres appear and begin to grow rapidly at only 4 weeks and by 6 weeks brain
activity has already begun. This is a scientific fact. You can learn more about the development of
babies in the womb and when their organs and bodily functions begin here http://www.ehd.org/index.php
It's a great site that has a huge amount of facts and even videos of babies
from the moment of conception up right up until birth that are invaluable information for pro-lifers. So you see there is no
such thing as a fetus with no brain since a fetus by its medical definition is
a baby 9 weeks after fertilization and by then it already has a brain that is
functioning and that is long before 20 weeks. :)
I also highly recommend this great video from Stand to
Reason on this same subject. I had seen it before this came up and I had it
saved in my pro-life playlist on Youtube for reference. I also posted it in my response to
her as well. All pro-lifer’s should see this one and many of the other videos in this great series he makes great points on this
subject and those similar to it that can be very helpful when trying to explain
the truth to others.
Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Saturday, December 1, 2012
I just read a very interesting article on Jill Stanek's site. http://www.jillstanek.com/2012/11/why-the-preborn-have-the-right-to-use-their-mothers-bodies
I think the writer of the article makes a very good point! The uterus is put in the woman's body for holding and carrying children that's what its there for. And the child is a separate being from it's mother. The child is alive and growing from the time it is conceived with its own DNA that contains everything about what that person will be if it's not interfered with, everything is already decided from eye and hair color, sex, bone structure, fingerprints, even male pattern baldness if it's a boy, everything genetically is already there and present at the time of conception. That child that is created is a unique and living human being. If they don't believe that they need to look at even the very basics of embryology and biology. It's a scientific fact so they can't use that as an excuse either. This isn't just a Biblical belief. Though I do believe what the Bible says we are all created in the image of God and he knows all of us and has a plan for all of our lives. The truth is the truth if they believe it or not is their choice. That is their real choice there. They have to choose if they will believe the truth or a lie if they want to do what is right or wrong. We can choose to believe that the sky is purple and tell everyone around us that it is and that it's our choice. But that doesn't mean that the sky is really purple. A person can CHOOSE to believe anything but that doesn't make what they believe the truth or what is right.Unless a woman is raped she did consent for that child to possibly be conceived and put in her uterus. Even if she used a condom or birth control because everyone knows (or should know if they are having sex) that there is NO 100% effective form of birth control accept abstinence. If you are having sex you are taking the chance of getting pregnant that's a fact. So she did use her brain to let the child be in her uterus.
And if the woman was raped the child should still not be killed for something it had no control over, or the crime of it's father either. It's still a living human being it's still half her as well and it is innocent of everything just like the mother is. Two wrongs don't make a right. An abortion won't change the fact of what happened and it won't help the mother heal it will only violate her more research show this. Women suffer many times more from the abortions than they did the rape. She can carry the child and give it up for adoption if she doesn't want to raise the child herself. The baby is innocent and shouldn't be killed because of the actions of another. Rape is a horrible crime and should never happen to begin with but God forbid when it does the baby if there is one as a result should not suffer because of it that baby did nothing wrong.
Just because some women have been lied too and are believing that selfish lie that their body is theirs and that a child is disposable because it's in her body for a time and that gives her the right to destroy that life doesn't make it the truth or whats right. These women need to learn the truth and educate themselves and look past their selves for the good of their children, and for themselves! They are hurting themselves so badly as well. I don't want to see any woman or baby hurt by abortion. Abortion is NEVER the right answer in any situation.
Monday, November 12, 2012
I wanted to share this on here because I think that it is something that pro-lifer's need to see and I wouldn't mind hearing your opinions on this as well. I recently shared one of the graphics that I made on another Pro-life site on Facebook. I'm getting use to having pro-aborts attack me for some of my Pro-life graphics and views that just goes with it I know. However some of these pro-abortion people were actually trying to quote scripture from the Bible that they want to say supports abortion or that shows that unborn children in the womb are not as valuable to God as born people are. Now I have heard this argument before so that didn't shock me but this is something that all Pro-lifer's need to know how to address if and when it comes up for them, I think this is especially true if you are a Christian! Now all of this came about from me simply posting this Pro-life graphic of Jesus with the Scripture from Matthew 18:10 on it.
I won't post the names of those that made the comments but here are a few of the the comments from where I posted this graphic...
2. "Do any of you people actually read the Bible??? Jesus actually said children, not babies. It's a different word in both Aramaic and Hebrew. The other thing you may not know is that they didn't have ultrasounds back in Jesus's time. Just sayin'."
And then there was this very lengthy one that quotes a lot of scriptures trying to make their pro-abortion stance and dehumanize the unborn baby.
I am so tired of people pulling out the "don't judge" card if you are stating something that they don't want to hear regardless of it's the the truth or not. And this kind of apathy and political correctness and SILENCE from Christians is in large part why the world is in the mess that it is in today! And why abortion has continued!
People take this one scripture "Judge not, that you be not judged" Matthew 7:1 out of context not even bothering to read the rest of the scripture after it or look at anything else that Jesus and his apostles teach throughout the rest of the New Testament and try to keep people silent on anything and everything that they don't want to hear about or agree with. Saying that by speaking what we believe or stating the facts and truth that we are judging them and by doing so that we are sinning by trying to help and teach others.
So here is my answer to that post.
I was not judging anyone by making this graphic. I've said it before I'll say it again this is a direct quote of Jesus in Matt. 18:10 from the KJV of the Bible. I am a sinner too and I am no one’s judge I never claimed to be. However since you brought up the topic I will address it because you have quoted quite a few scriptures here but you are taking many out of context and only using part of them to try to support your support of abortion. There are several fallacies to your arguments and they are your fallacies not the Bibles. People can not take scripture out of context and only in parts and try to make them say something that they did not.
Jesus did indeed say... "Judge not, that you be not judged" Matthew 7:1.
However you aren't finishing out the scripture (as many people do in today's society) that wasn't all that Jesus said, he continued...
Matthew 7:2-5 KJV
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Note that the verse goes on after the first verse to tell us how we should judge and the clear message is that we should judge fairly. Matt 7:1 has to be interpreted both in light of the context of the surrounding text as well as the whole of scripture. If read in its entirety - we can see that what Jesus was forbidding was unrighteous judgment, not all judging.
Does this mean we are never to judge or try to help our fellow brothers and sisters learn differently if they are living or doing something that could hurt them or that is not according to God's word?
Certainly not, for Jesus also said:
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment" John 7:24.
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment" John 7:24.
We are commanded to exercise righteous judgment. We are forbidden to judge when we are not qualified to do so. If we tell someone what the Bible says about something that they are doing that is wrong then it is not us judging them but God's word that judges them. Telling others what the Bible says and what Jesus teaches is not judging them its in fact doing exactly what Jesus commanded us to do...
Matthew 28:19-20 KJV
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
That is not placing a stumbling block in front of our brothers and sisters it is teaching them Christ's word and his will as he commanded us to do! That is removing the stumbling blocks from in front of them not putting more before them.
Paul said in I Corinthians 1:10 "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment." Judging is not a sin; judging is a characteristic of being a spiritual person! Satan has been lying to us, hoping that we will NOT judge others that we will be silent and let sin abound. Because he knows that the right kind of judgment pleases God and leads others from darkness to light and from death to life. Teaching people the truth is what a Christian is called to do.
1 Corinthians 6:1-5 KJV
1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
Paul actually rebuked the Corinthians for NOT judging: If judging is wrong, then Paul needs to confess and repent for misleading these Christians! He clearly told them to JUDGE PEOPLE.
And I won't go into at length all the other Scriptures that show that we are to use righteous judgement but here are several that you should read...
Eph 4:11-19, John 4:1, Rev.2:1-3, Acts 20:28-31 and there are many more.
NOW to the scriptures that you referenced that you were trying to say support abortion...
The arguments that you are making in Exodus 21:22-25 and the others you have listed are all standard texts abortion advocates use trying to discredit the full humanity of the unborn. But these are false claims and not what the Bible teaches at all. Again these are taken out of context and a spin put on them that the Bible simply doesn't teach.
Exodus 21: 22-25 KJV...
22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
But this argument that the baby's life isn't somehow as valuable as the mother's or that God doesn't esteem the child's life as much as anyone else's is false and is flawed on several counts.
First, assuming the pro-abortion interpretation of this passage is correct (i.e. that the unborn's death is treated differently than the mother's), it does not follow that the unborn are not fully human. And in the next few verses after these verses listed the Bible presents a situation where a master unintentionally kills his slave and escapes with no penalty at all (the lack of intent being proven by the interval between the blow and the death.). Yet few liberals would argue that Scripture considers the slave to be less than human. It might be argued that both the slave and the unborn child had a lesser social status in Hebrew society, but it cannot be demonstrated from this that a lesser social status meant that one was less than fully human or that that is the way that God saw them because in many other instances in the Bible we see that God does not think that any person is more valuable than another he is no respecter of persons as in a persons social standing, their age, race, etc.
This single passage cannot be used to invalidate other Scriptures which confer full human status on the unborn. Passages such as Job 3:3,10-16, Psalm 139:13-16, Jeremiah 1:5, Galatians 1:15, etc. all treat the unborn as persons and their lives as sacred and precious in God's eyes. The abortion advocate must somehow reconcile his own interpretation of this passage with these other Scriptures which are clearly not supportive of his view.
Finally, the pro-abortion interpretation of this passage (that a person who kills an unborn child only incurs a fine and therefore the child's life isn't as important as or considered as valuable as the mothers) has come under heavy fire from many Biblical scholars. They usually use a translation of the Bible like the NIV which interprets that same scripture as...
Exodus 21:22-25 New International Version (NIV)
22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely[a] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows.
23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life,
24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
There is a great deal of discussion about the phrase, "no serious injury." "No serious injury to whom?" asks theologian R.C. Sproul. Liberals, of course, argue that the phrase only applies to the mother. But only a few translations, such as the Jerusalem Bible, actually interpret the verse in this way. When read in the original Hebrew, the passage seems to suggest that both the mother and the child are covered by the lex talionis -- the law of retribution. The Hebrew term ason (harm/injury) is clearly indefinite in its reference, and the expression lah(to her), which would restrict the word "injury" only to the mother, is missing. Hence, the phrase, "no serious injury" seems to apply equally to both mother and child and if either is harmed the penalty is "life for life, tooth for tooth, hand for hand," etc. According to Hebrew scholar Dr. Gleason Archer, "There is no second class status attached to the fetus under this rule. The fetus is just as valuable as the mother." (Cited in J. Ankerberg and J. Weldon,When Does Life Begin, Wolgemuth & Hyatt, 1989 pp. 195-6. See also, Meredith Kline, "Lex Talionis & the Human Fetus," Simon Greenleaf Law Review 5 [1985-1986] pp.73-89.)
Genesis 2:7. the argument for "breath" (nephesh). The argument goes that the first man, Adam, became a living soul when God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. So pro-abortion people like to try to claim that since the unborn don't "breathe" until birth, they are not fully human. This argument is completely absurd and false.
First, it is scientifically imprecise to say that the unborn do not 'breathe' until birth. From conception forward, the unborn child receives and transfers oxygen, though not through the lungs. What changes at birth is the mode of breathing: instead of receiving oxygen through the placenta, the child begins to breathe through its lungs. Hence, the argument can be made that birth does not mark the beginning of human respiration.
Second, if the ability to sustain oxygen through the lungs is what indeed makes one human, then all those dependent on ventilators and oxygen machines would have to be classed as non-human and according to pro-aborts could be killed too if this logic were true.
Finally, the analogy between Adam and the unborn child does not fit. The creation of Adam was a unique historical event in which God formed Adam from inanimate matter (dust) and then breathed into him the "breath of life." The unborn child is not created in the same manner that Adam was. The unborn child is a living entity from conception. Hence, the passage does nothing to discredit the humanity of the unborn.
The accounts of the creation of man and woman in Genesis (Genesis 1:26-31; 2:4-25) tell us this: "God created man in his image; in the divine image he created him; male and female he created them" (Genesis 1:27).
The image of God! This is what it means to be human being! We are not just a bunch of cells randomly thrown together by some impersonal or unseen forces. Rather, we really reflect an eternal God who knew us from before we were made, and purposely called us into being.
The unborn are children and alive and just as valuable as born children and adults are to God. God created them and knows the unborn personally. The Bible does not speak of the unborn child as an unthinking, unfeeling tissue mass, but as a person with whom God interacts.
Jeremiah 1:4-5
4 Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Psalm 139:13-16
13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
Scripture gives identity to unborn human life. Psalm 139 - notice the spiritual relationship the psalmist has while in the womb "The psalmist surveys his life in four stages: Past, present, future, and before birth, and in all four refers to himself as 'I.' He who is writing as a full-grown man has the same personal identity as the fetus in his mother's womb." (John R.W. Stott)
Psalm 22:9-10
9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.
10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.
These verses do not distinguish between "potential life" and "actual life" when referring to the pre-born. Genesis 16:11; Isaiah 46:3-4; Psalm 22:9-10 (Notice in Psalm 22:10. "From my mother's womb you have been my God.")
Jesus is spoken of in the womb. Matthew 1:20-21 (Note: The incarnation is the most compelling Christian apologetic for the sanctity of unborn human life. To argue that life does not begin at conception must lead one to assume that the human Christ was at one point a "potentially human" Christ. Those who say that life does not begin at conception are in direct opposition to the teachings of the Bible.
Scripture uses the same language for the unborn as it does other children. Luke's gospel uses the word "baby" or "child" (Gr. brephos ) to describe John the Baptist prior to his birth. We are told in 1:41 and 1:44 that the "baby" (brephos) leapt in Elizabeth's womb. But one chapter later (2:12,16), the already born Christ child is also referred to as a "baby"(brephos ). Since brephos is commonly used to describe infants and older children (Luke 18:15, Acts 7:19, 1 Peter 2:2), Luke's use of the word for the pre-born John the Baptist is not without significance.
The Old Testament, meanwhile, uses variations of the word "child" or "children" for both the born and unborn, and in several instances applies personal language to the conceived embryo. Job said (3:3), "May the day perish on which I was born, and the night in which it was said, 'a male child is conceived."' [Hebrew word gebher [man child] is used here to describe Job at the point of conception. The word is often used for adult males, but is applied here to a conceived embryo.] As Beckwith observes, "This passage connects the individual born with the individual conceived." Job is clearly using personal language to trace his humanity back beyond birth to the act of conception.
And there are many more scriptures which show that both God and Jesus value all human life and that it is sacred, precious, and a gift from God himself. God and Jesus do not condone or approve of abortion which is the killing of an innocent human being. There are countless times that murder is condemned by both in the Bible.
God’s own finger writes in stone the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" (Exodus 20:13, Deuteronomy 5:17) and Christ reaffirms it (Matthew 19:18 - notice that He mentions this commandment first). The Book of Revelation affirms that (unrepentant) murderers cannot enter the kingdom of heaven (Revelation 22:15). It's addressed in many other places as well but I won't go into that further these show sufficiently what their stance on life is.
There is no verse in the Bible where God or Jesus condones or allows for abortion.
*References and quotes also used from...
http://www.priestsforlife.org/speakersmanual/ch4theologicalcasebible.htm (I'm not Catholic but they show the position perfectly on many points on trying to use scripture to support abortion. So some of my response is direct quotes from this site.)
Germain Grisez,Abortion: the Myths, the Realities, and the Arguments, Corpus Books, 1970, pp. 123-127 for a lengthy discussion of this point.)
Cited in J. Ankerberg and J. Weldon,When Does Life Begin, Wolgemuth & Hyatt, 1989 pp. 195-6. See also, Meredith Kline, "Lex Talionis & the Human Fetus," Simon Greenleaf Law Review 5 [1985-1986] pp.73-89.)
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